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Leading in Chaos: Rethinking Leadership for an Uncertain World

Guest:
Nicholas Janni and Amy Elizabeth Fox
Broadcast Date:
Monday, May 18, 2026
What does a new model of leadership look like in this moment? How do leaders stay grounded when the environment is anything but? What does it take to move from trying to control outcomes to creating the conditions for something new to emerge? Join host Michael J. Keegan as he explores these questions and more with Nicholas Janni and Amy Elizabeth Fox, co-authors of Leading in Chaos: A Clarion Call To A New Future From Two Pioneers In Leadership Development And Transformational Change.
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The Business of Government Hour is a weekly conversation with government executives and thought leaders who are changing the way government does business. Host Michael J. Keegan speaks to guests about leadership, public management, innovation, and their vision of government in the 21st century. Interviews are informative, insightful, and in-depth conversations on topics & trends at the intersection of government, technology, and leadership.